Before I get hot and heavy into this one, I must say that MANY of the men who feel this way, do so for legitimate reason! I am sorry, but there are just some sorry ass women out there that have created these monsters, and made it really hard for the women who are NOT all about the shallow gold-diggin....
But...carrying on....
Athough this is a difficult subject to talk about, without the possibility of offending someone, I have to say it: Men...not every woman wants your fucking money! LOL!!! Please assess the woman you are interacting with individually, before deciding to take the defensive and assume that she, and every single woman roaming this earth, is out to rob you of every linty cent in your pocket! OK, so some woman may've used you, and taken advantage of you - "milked" you - for as much as they could get, but not every woman is that way. I don't want your money - I just want to have a good, chill time! Sue my ass!!! What's even worse is the frustration and humor of dealing with men who got the nerve to act like this, who ain't got shit to take anyway! You live with someone else, barely got a running car and decent paying job, but you want to treat ME like I'd be stealing from you if you took me out and paid. Get a grip. If YOU asked me out, yes, I believe you SHOULD pay. And if/when we've been out a few times, and have become friends and developed a rapport, then we can discuss and haggle who'll pay, OK? It really should be that simple.
Speaking of haggling, let's talk etiquette for a minute. I do think that there is certain etiquette when it comes to dating. For example, if you ask ME out to dinner, you should be prepared to pay. If I ask YOU to a movie, I should be prepared to pay. The key word here is PREPARED. Who ACTUALLY pays may turn out differently (for example, I OFFER to pay at the last moment, or you suddenly whip out some cash when I reach for my credit card), but the person who invites should be prepared for that date. And if you're NOT prepared, keep your broke ass at home, and don't ask nobody out! Wait until your friggin payday, for goodness sakes. Additionally, only after we've established a certain level of comfort with each other, should we discuss and alternate who covers what. You don't discuss that shit on a first friggin date!!! Believe it or not, talking about money and who should pay, IS a sensitive subject. It can be a deal-breaker, and at the very least, is sure to make the rest of our date very awkward. I think it can be a case-by-case issue, but initially, I must admit that I am a little old-fashioned and believe that the guy should be prepared to pay for first dates. I stress the term "initially". To rewind in time for a second, men were always expected to cover the costs of taking a woman out on a date, and this was considered part of the COURTING process. Nowadays, things have changed so much - women being more independent with single-motherhood and being the provider, as well as being sexually uninhibited, that the "rules" of courting having changed to where very few things are traditional anymore. I don't believe that everything should be traditional, but now, many men have this general thinking that if they DO put out any money for a date, that they deserve something in return, like, sex. I stress the word BULL-SHIT, and just because you pay for a date, it does not entitle you to anything. If you been going out on 50-first-dates for the past week, and have to dish out $40 a date and your ass is broke, that ain't my fuckin problem! Pace your ass then, turbo!!! I don't owe you shit, just because you treated me to a meal. Get THAT straight. I am allowed to say that, and not flinch, because I don't regard myself like some kind of trophy or commodity, or something that has to be bought. I know how I am, and I know that if we end up hanging out, there will be times that I will treat you too, but when/if I do, it'll be because I WANT to. It'll be because I enjoy your company, and want to continue spending time with you. It'll be because I appreciate your taking ME out too sometimes. It'll be because you don't EXPECT me to.
That said, I'm gonna take a minute and RANT, because I know some women have completely fucked that concept up for some men - and therefore in turn, for women like me. Some women not only expect the man to pay for every, single date, but they want...oh, let's see....shoes, clothes, bills to be paid, etc., etc... G-damned bitches: Thanks for NOTHING!! Thanks for fuckin him up and the traditional process, so now I gotta deal with a man that I may've liked, but had to cut loose because his stupid ass expected me to drive an hour to HIM so he doesn't have to pay $3 a gallon for gas on date number-fuckin-one, and then looks at me expectantly to pay for my own fucking movie ticket, even though HIS dumb ass asked ME out, because his head is jammed up his ass and is obsessed with never allowing a "golddigger" to fuck him over again. Fuck you - to the stupid man AND the idiot bitch(es) that made him that way! And FYI - don't you dare ask me out to YOUR favorite restaurant, that I've never been to, for a first date, then ask me to pay for my own fucking meal when the check comes, either (yes, that shit happened, and I ended up paying $50 fucking dollars for food that I HATED, thank-you-very-much!!!).
*whew*
I had to get that off my chest...lol. Scuse all that french, but I am part Creole, so I get a free "french" pass!
See? My point is...It's a two-way street. Dating is an INTERACTION - a back-and-forth between two people. I don't want your money. If you pay, you don't own me. So unless I give you a valid reason, don't treat me like a golddigger. Not every woman wants you for your money.
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I'm impressed. I love your self expression. I agree that a man should pick up the tab when asking for a date. A woman will never learn to act or respond to being treated like a lady if no man ever treats her that way. Sue me- but maybe I am just too old school or the midwest still has too much of a hold on me.
D-A-A-A-M!
I thing you got that off your chest... and rightfully so... Kudos.. CHIVALRY IS NOT DEAD! I refuse to believe that. Even in the wake of Women being more independent, and open, it is still the right of a "MAN" to be the Courtier... and Court the woman... at least that is how i was raised... The man or men of whom you spoke "so eloquently about" lol... are just sorry... I do understand hard times and sometimes not having alot of money... but then those are the times one should get imaginative... and come up with dates or things to do that don't require breaking the bank right out of the gate... Stretch your mind... Stretch your horizons... Be adventurous... Cook, Museum, Beach... HELLO...
State your case, cause i second it!
LOL...women!!!,LOL....the ole if I ask you I'll pay, but if you ask me, then you pay...thats all well and good...except,LOL...the "status quo" is such that MEN ask women out, not the other way around. And its always been that way....and since women almost NEVA ask men out...they neva have to pay,LOL.....moreover, you said it yourself baby....there are women out there lookin to do just that...play a brother. If money isnt an issue, why dont you just pay for ALL ur dates? Why do I have to pay to get to know you?? when was the last time you heard any man complain about a women being cheap??? neva...cause women dont pay,LOL...the truth is, beautiful women like you get away with murder..why?? cause we want ur sexy ass! its that simple, and you ALWAYS will get away with murder...cause we will ALWAYS want u, LOL
much luv baby,
da poet-warrior
This hillarious, you really got to explain this too men. Every time I go out, I expect to pay. I really don't hang out with women who look for me to pay for everything. When you are out on a good date, I might buy some drinks, and she might buys some drinks..But to be honest, when you are having fun, I forget who paid for what, and who paid the most. I hope you enjoyed yourself, money is only important when you are broke.
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